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Post by Popolus on Feb 23, 2011 7:29:26 GMT -5
Okay, Warboss, Dakka Predators are pretty clutch.
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Post by Gannon on Feb 23, 2011 18:34:17 GMT -5
I like 'em!
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Post by High Marshal Timmah on Feb 27, 2011 2:08:58 GMT -5
I guess the reason that they are so good is because at first most opponents will not shoot at them. They will ignore them, and by turn 6 that was a big mistake... like HB razorbacks.
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Post by High Marshal Timmah on Feb 27, 2011 2:21:50 GMT -5
But check Dakka pred vs Dakka Assault Bikes Pros and Cons: Dakka Pred: 145pts CORRECTION 95 PTS?! 110 with EA. Pros: Cheap?! You get a 2 shot Autocannon at Str 7. Can survive a heavy weapon hit from the front. Cons: Move 6" and only fire one weapon = crap mobility Side armor weak as hell Tough to get cover save Competes with other heavy support options Str 6 lances will suck. Assault Bikes: 150ptsPros: Easy to get cover save Move 12" and fire everything (essentially 48" dakka), then assault with 9 attacks and toughness 5 Ignore Difficult terrain (still have to roll dangerous terrain tests though) Can attach a cheap lord with a storm shield, giving 2+/3+i Does not compete with heavy support options Can upgrade to MELTA (caution: expensive) Str 7+ wound does not kill an entire model. 24" turbo boost for the last second objective contest. Cons: Str 8+ Heavy weapon easy kill with a pop Bolter fire can kill off if you let get within range. POISON WEAPONS HURT |
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Post by Gannon on Feb 28, 2011 0:53:07 GMT -5
 We can't take Attack Bike Squadrons, and our Attack Bikes split off the main bike squadron beginning of the game giving us one unit with two wounds that can be instant killed easily. 95 points buys us Autocannon AND Heavy Bolters, don't forget that. Sure movement is crap, but you shouldn't be moving anyways. That's what the rest of your army is for. Of course if we could take AB Squadrons, well then there would be something to think about... I eat HB Razorbacks for breakfast! |
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Post by High Marshal Timmah on Feb 28, 2011 14:24:12 GMT -5
We can't take Attack Bike Squadrons My bad, I know this too. |
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Post by Gannon on Mar 1, 2011 2:20:05 GMT -5
Yes I know you know it. Your punishment is painting until your eyes bleed. You must finish all your models before the tournament. Then strip them and spray them all silver.
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Post by Chagear on Mar 1, 2011 8:35:27 GMT -5
On the note of the dakka predator, I think it is good, but 2 TL-AC dread (hence forth rifleman) is better IMO.
-can move 6" and fire all of it's weapons plus make difficult terrain tests, not dangerous.
-hits like a ton of bricks reliably with it matching weapons, and can close combat stall if needed.
-has 12 arm for front and side with a smaller profile than both the razorback and the predator for easier cover saves.
- doesn't take up a heavy choice unless you want it to. [MoTF or BA]
though it may be tied up in CC, rifleman's range and mobility make that tough. Melta bombs, etc. also hit it less at ALL times (while it is blazing away with guns).
A solid choice and at 125 you can count on taking out a light vehicle or causing some damage to MC every turn of the game. while this is expensive (comparatively), not by much.
leaving it alone is not an option from the other end of the table (unless you can't math hammer. Then you will not see it as a threat and be mowed down by SERIOUS bullet to face action from this guy!).
I just need to order/convert me some arms here soon...
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Post by Gannon on Mar 1, 2011 21:27:03 GMT -5
Once again we don't get those...
But good points Chagear, if I had the choice, I'd probably add a couple to the mix.
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We can't take Attack Bike Squadrons, and our Attack Bikes split off the main bike squadron beginning of the game giving us one unit with two wounds that can be instant killed easily.